Castle?

[desperation]

Anyone know where the casle lionking the two mouthes in between the face(s) on the cover....or the name?

[philtherodent]

Ely Cathedral

[desperation]

thank you

[desperation]

Anyone have any ideas what the significance could be?

[philtherodent]

reread Breathe Reprise

Also, possibly the idea of organized religion interrupting true empathy/communication. I'll try to find you the interview quote that goes along with this at some point.

Also, you might want to look up the Elysian fields.

[desperation]

Do you know if the face(s) on the cover are still standing in the elysian plains?

[arod777]

No, the faces were actually toured wround the world for a brief stint. Couldnt tell you where they are now though.

I personally beleive the faces represent the treasure.
One face is light and one is dark. These are the dueling nature of reality... physical and spiritual.

To mirror this theme (since everything is based on mirrors)
I beleive there are two treasures... one physical and one spiritual.

I also beleive they are closely related to the treasures of the Knights Templar, and thus this is why the church is blocking communication of the two heads... because the church is withholding secrets about the true nature of reality and our true history as a human race from the general public in order to keep control.

Listen
Read
Think
Communicate

First letter read backwards = CTRL

Ely Cathedral also has a picture very similar to the two heads on TDB cover inscribed above one of the doors. It has two half faces making one face, and in latin there is an inscription which reads roughly "My house is a house of communication"

[desperation]

Thats a good theory but i beleive the things inbetween the mouthes serve as links that help communication thats why having a cathedral is throwing me off.....theres always something connecting the two mouthes except for when communication is lacking like when there represented by boxing gloves or when they arent facing each other (ELF ELF)

[philtherodent]

Could be those glowing balls are the communication itself.

Anyways, here, I told you I'd find this for you:
BREATH REPRISE
Waters: It's about our attachment to the idea of being productive. Also about how organised religion can divert us from our potential to have empathy with other people.
Wright: It was a good idea to split up the song.
Mason: It was a bit avant-garde. And it was a bloody good device not to have to write anything else.

groups.google.com/group/alt.music.pink-floyd/browse_thread/thread/3c837009d554219f/9a36161333213e5a?lnk=gst&q=religion+breathe&rnum=5#9a36161333213e5a

[arod777]

precisely!

and empathy is a higher form of communication.
It is the basis for what we would consider "telepathy".

when empathy exists between two or more people they are more or less tuning their thought frequencies to match eachother... just like you would tune a radio to match the frequency of the radio station you wish to tune in to.

[desperation]

i know i share the same brain frequency with several people...not strong enough to pick up listen to their thoughts but to think the same things as them....at the exact same time

[mconchis]

Perhaps.....in the year 2012 at winter's solstice December 21st, when the exact moment of the solstice ocurrs at 11:11 GMT.....the place to be, might be Ely Cathedral

[philtherodent]

Probably as good a place as any.

[arod777]

I agree about the significance of the date, and the time in connection with PF. They are definitly pointing twards this precise moment in time... but as far as Ely cathedral... mmmmm.... definitly a possibility but I think there are clues around that area which may lead to an even bigger revelation besides simply being at the right place at the right time. There is interestingly enough a sundial at Ely cathedral which bears a latin phrase which roughly translates to

"know the appropriate time"

and there is also a spiral pathway in the church that leads nowhere which seems to be part of some riddle to be solved.
i would say this all has to do with a Freemason/Knights Templar riddle. Especially given the architecture of the church which looks distinctly Masonic. The Masons and the Templars share an almost identical religeous philosophy, which much of it was adopted from the Romans and the Egyptians which were adopted from ancient Babylonia which adopted there philosophies from an even earlier sect of people all the way back to the dawn of civilization which some people call Atlantis. Therfore, the golden spiral and the sundial were used to hide some type of treasure or knowledge. Only a person who is versed in sacred geometry and the ancient knowledge would have sufficient understanding to unravel the mystery.

We have discussed this date and time before but not much has come out of the discussion besides some egyptian philosophy. Keep going with it and fill us in on your findings

-ant

[mconchis]

I'm sure that you know that the Mayan calendar abruptly ends on the solstice of 2012 at the solstice occurs precisely at 11:11....and according to some research on the net, the significance of that date results from an alignment of our solar system in the midline of the milky way the galaxy we live in. 2012 is also the second of the two transits of Venus with earth this century...an auspicious year. So there is the time (perhaps)....

I have a suspicion that the other clues have to do with making a kind of flip book out of the insert of the Division Bell album.....finding the key to orient the pages and the order of them ..... keep looking for 2 minutes.......