The Amicus Posts

[Nikko]

[Note - Amicus Humani Generis first appeared on amp-f replying in this thread about the Enigma and the 1999 solar eclipse. The rest of his posts were in new threads.]

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Charlie Kennedy
Date: 1998/01/17
Subject: Enigma / Isles of Scilly

The total eclipse of the sun on August 11, 1999 will be the first to be
seen from anywhere in the UK since 1927. Among the few places in the UK
which will experience the totality of this eclipse are the Isles of Scilly.

The Isles of Scilly consist of five inhabited islands and several
uninhabited islands about 28 miles off the coast of southwestern England. I
first became interested in these islands when I noticed that they are
located in the path of totality for the August, 1999 eclipse. My interest
in them increased after I downloaded a complete set of Genesis posts.

The first nine Genesis posts end with the phrase, "under I'll be". When I
realized that this could be read as "under Isle B" I searched the internet
for a map of the Scillys to see if any of their names began with the letter
B. One did: the inhabited island of Bryher. Initially I thought this could
mean that treasure might be buried underground on Bryher Island,  then I
noticed something else on the map: There is another island immediately
south of Bryher which, on a north-oriented map, could be considered "under
Isle B". Unfortunately, I couldn't make out the name of this island due to
poor screen resolution. At a bookstore several days later I found a road
atlas of Great Britain which included a small map of the Isles of Scilly in
which this small uninhabited island is identified: it is named Samson.

Because of their proximity to the Gulf Stream, the Isles of Scilly enjoy a
mild climate which is conducive to the cultivation of flowers for much of
the year. In fact, the islands are famous for their flowers and every
reference article I found on them, no matter how small, included the word
"flowers". One source even called them the "Isles of Flowers". On page 10
of the DB booklet,  the lyrics to AGDFF are superimposed upon a photograph
of several flowers which appear to be floating in water. IMO these "flower
islands" could be a representation of the Isles of Scilly; a possibility
reinforced by the fact that one of  them bears a name. At the bottom of the
page one of the "flower islands" is superimposed with the name Samson.

I don't know what any of this means Enigma - wise. Even if it means that
treasure is buried on Samson Island in the Scillys, much more information
would be needed to pinpoint an exact location on that island. I think that,
if this information is relevant at all, it represents just another piece in
the Enigma puzzle which has to fit in with all the other pieces in order to
complete the picture.

Here is a site with more info on the Isles of Scilly:
www.scillyonline.co.uk

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Zeeto96
Date: 1998/01/17
Subject: Re: Enigma / Isles of Scilly

> I thought this could mean that treasure might be buried underground on Bryher

Island,<

Buried treasure under islands?!?!?!  C'mon people!!!  THIS JUST IN.....THE
ENIGMA IS A HOAX!!!!

Zeet

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Robert and Frances Egan
Date: 1998/01/17
Subject: Re: Enigma / Isles of Scilly

I'm inclined to agree with here. I think that Genesis is talking about
veiwing the eclipse. Hence the multiple references to "under i'll be". I
don't believe that TDB is delibrately related to either the Publius or
the Genesis enigmas, because it doesn't have to be.

IF (notice that's a big if) Genesis is conducting a legitmate contest
with a real prize, that prize might be travel and lodging to view the
eclipse from the Mediteranean. If that is true, I hope that you enjoy
the trip because as far as I can tell you're the first person to figure
it out.

And as always, I refuse to admit any connection between Genesis and
Publius or their respective enigmas. So that even if you have solved the
Genesis enigma I don't think you've solved the Publius enigma. Just
IMHO.

Shine On
Robert Egan

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Amicus humani generis
Date: 1998/01/17
Subject: Quorum pars magna fui

+Good Year
+...and I quote you

The theme of The Division Bell can be taken to be something along the
lines of "communicating whilst failing to communicate",
Thus, Publius embodied this by sending cryptic messages to the group,
but failing to explain them. / Syd - Happy 52nd birthday. I hope you're
well.  I miss you.
+Syd is dead
~~~
He arranged for "proof" to be shown to us. Firstly by the stage lights
- the words "Publius Enigma" appeared at the foot of the stage... but there
was no message attached to them. Our attention was grabbed, but no message
was given.
+laudator temporis acti
~~~~~
Publius ignored us entirely.
+co-dependence? j'y suis, j'y reste
~~
Been there, done that.  I want to go to a PFloyd show and hear stuff never
before heard by human ears whilst being mesmerized into a state of total
consciousness to the point that I completely forget about the doobie in my
pocket that I've been hoarding for this show for six months.
+you don't need drugs, just a compass and a bucket of water
~~~
Good Floyd songs really depend on your drug preference.
+just education
~~~
Of COURSE she's bullshitting.  If she could tell what was legit she
wouldn't be an enigma chaser in the first place.
+there's nothing to chase or to be afraid of
~~~~~
Repression creates deviant behavior.
+Godspeed and tip the alterboy
~~~
=========================================================
+++Walk through the reverse, and reverse it again, for here you will see the
with your own eyes the truth of all to come

+Amicus humani generis

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Shari G.
Date: 1998/01/18
Subject: Re: Quorum pars magna fui

HUH???

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Angus Mair
Date: 1998/01/18
Subject: Re: Quorum pars magna fui

On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 19:09:41 -0600, "Amicus humani generis"

<tempusedaxrarum> wrote:

tempus edax rarum, eh? Aye.

>+laudator temporis acti

Laudator homo solitarius est. Mihi opus est explanatio. Aliquando
Publius et Enigma sui stultus appareant.

Angus
(Amicus maeli et sciuri)

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Paul A. Gunn
Date: 1998/01/18
Subject: Re: Enigma / Isles of Scilly

Ditto.

Paul

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Robert Hulsart
Date: 1998/01/21
Subject: Re: Quorum pars magna fui

   Hi all,
                I have had some problems getting my posts up to the server
because
of my connection, so I hope this gets out...
There have been some REALLY good things said here about the enigma in the past
few
days....I feel that I am on to something big...I have a theory, but it is to
large
to explain here in the NG.  I am setting up a website devoted to my explanation
of
what the enigma is and it will be up and running VERY shortly.  Please look here

shortly for the URL.  Have faith and above all BELIEVE!

-RLH

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Amicus humani generis
Date: 1998/01/27
Subject: Quorum pars magna fui

+Friends
~~~
+our time has come
+laudator temporis acti
~~~~~
+ j'y suis, j'y reste
~~
~~~
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+++Walk through the reverse, and reverse it again, for here you will see the
with your own eyes the truth of all to come
+Amicus humani generis 

[Nikko]

From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: Publius Enigma (quorum pars magna fui)
Date: 1998/02/06
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+Friends
~~~
~~~~~
             +++in utrumque paratus
==+===============================================
+I have noticed some of you are articulate
+let us begin
+your allegiance is important
====+=============================================
             +++publius enigma
+cadit quaestio
+I am not publius
+"quorum pars magna fui"
+publius did not deceive you, publius forgot you
+finem respice
+j”y suis, j’y reste
~~
~~~
=+================================================
             +++re infecta
+ave atque vale
+or
+divide et impera
+what is it that you wish?
+the writing can be read
==+===============================================
             +++Walk through the reverse, and reverse it again

+Amicus humani generis



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From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: Publius Enigma (magni nominis umbra)
Date: 1998/02/12
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+Friends
~~~
~~~~~
             +++in utrumque paratus
==+===============================================
+well done
+let us continue
+"your allegiance is important"
====+=============================================
             +++publius enigma
+I am not publius
+"quorum pars magna fui"
+j'y suis, j’y reste
~~
~~~
=+================================================
             +++revenons a nos moutons
+intra muros
+"can it be torn down now?"
+that is what I wish, do you?
+"repondez s'il vous plait"
+hoc age
+the writing can be read
==+===============================================
             +++Walk through the reverse, and reverse it again
+++
+++++
++
+++
+Pink Floyd "magni nominis umbra"
+quorum pars magna fui
+non sum qualis eram

+Amicus humani generis



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From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: quorum pars magna fui
Date: 1998/02/20
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+Fans, Friends, and Interested Parties,

~~~
~~~~~

My past posts may have been a bit confusing to some of you.  You see, my
posts were for Publius.  I offer no enigma, nor prize.  That is between you
and Publius.  Where do you stand?  I know not,  for it is Publius that you
must speak with.  "Genesis" we know not of, perhaps it was one of you my
friends.  You better watch out, there may be dogs about!

                 +++As I have stated before
                        I am not Publius
                        Who am I?
                        "quorum pars magna fui"
                        "magni nominis umbra"

However, I do salute you Mr. Mark Brown.  You are a dedicated Fan.  An to
you Mr. Angus Mair, for your Latin is just fine lad.  Peace!

                        +++Now to my business.

Pink Floyd is one of the Greatest Group of Artists that have worked
extremely hard to bring you enjoyment over the past 30 years.  If not for
you and countless other dedicated Fans who are not on this NG,  the Artists
may not have been clothed, feed, or housed.  With that, Pink Floyd Thanks
You.

Now the time has come to ask all of you two questions.

                    +++What is it that you wish for Pink Floyd?
                           What is it that you wish for yourselves?
                            hoc age
                            j'y suis, j'y reste (I am here, here I remain)

I must restrict myself from answering.  Most of your answers will come from
your sources and theirs who are in communication with Pink Floyd.  Post
them.  The writing can be read.  Remember what Publius said,
"Communicate."  I will speak with you soon enough after I feel you have
asked the proper questions and the proper answers are in place.

~~
~~~

+Amicus humani generis



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From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: Moiety (quorum pars magna fui)
Date: 1998/02/27
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People,

~~~
~~~~~

I am not Publius and I offer no enigma, nor prize.  To clarify, my past
posts were for Publius to read.   This post and possibly others to you will
begin with "People,"  so as not to confuse you.  If I need to speak with
others, I
will address them in accordance so that you will know.

                               PIETY IS THE VALIDITY OF OUR MOIETY

                            +++quorum pars magna fui
                            +++magni nominis umbra

I am not here to deceive or puzzle you.  My role at this time is merely to
ask you two simple questions.  I have come to you at this time for only this
reason.  My respect for you is of the highest regard.  Let us now step into
the Queen's Weather.  Your doubts will only blur the Sun, and I do not wish
to see you go blind.

                               PIETY IS THE VALIDITY OF OUR MOIETY


                           +++What is it that you wish for Pink Floyd?
                                  What is it that you wish for yourselves?


quotes
                           +++What is it that you wish for Pink Floyd?

That they have (good) inspiration to write good songs.  I think that's
every musician's wish, and every fan's wish...

Jérôme
-----
That they have the great honour of playing in my local
pub. How's that? :) I can't imagine what Pink Floyd would want from
me. Other than a sincere appreciation of their music.

Angus
----
                                What is it that you wish for yourselves?

Personally, I'd like to see the Wall anniversary commemmorated with the
release of the live and documentary footage that Roger has hidden away.
Nice to be appreciated.

Angus
-----
+well done
+let us continue
+"your allegiance is important"

Remember what Publius said, "Communicate."
                            +++ex nihilo nihil fit
It is that simple.
Do you think that Pink Floyd does not read your posts?

I will speak with you soon enough after I feel you have asked the proper
questions and the proper answers are in place.  Then...

~~
~~~

+Amicus humani generis



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From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: Your Wish
Date: 1998/03/02
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People,

~~~
~~~~~

I see that some of you have responded to my last post.  Thank you.  I need
to continue to ask all of you but one question which may be more appropriate
at this time.

                +++What is it that you wish from Pink Floyd?

quotes

I have faith in the fact that Pink Floyd creates incredible music. And
that is all the faith I need when it comes to them. They are not
Prophets, deities or gods. Just excellent musicians.
Richard Wrong

I wish them continued success.  I wish they, Dave, Roger, Syd, Nick, and
Richard would all get back together again.  That would be the biggest
reunion of ALL TIME.
heaters
-----

You are probably questing my motives.  I will share with all of you when I
feel you have asked the proper questions and the proper answers are in
place.  Time will tell.

I am not part of any enigma, nor am I Publius.  Do not mistake me for
either.  My assistant has brief me that there is a fellow member of your NG
who may be delusional.  There has also been a coincidental contact of
someone named Genesis shortly after one of my post.  Coincidental?
Delusional?  You decide which is which - and who is who.  I challenge no
one.  Believe in yourself, that is what's important.  My quest is your
answers to my question.

If you wish to not participate, that is up to you.  Know one will sort you
here.  Again, I have only come here to ask you this question.  My validity
may be important to some you, but then again, I may be just one of you.
There is no harm in answering.  My assistant also told me your NG has
recently been flooded with trash and doubts and debates.  You can change
this now, and get back to the entertainment.

~~
~~~

+Amicus humani generis



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From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: +++My Friend
Date: 1998/03/03
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+My Friend,

                    +++Here I am, here remain

                    +++revenons a nos moutons
+intra muros
+can it be torn down now?
+hoc age
+the writing is read


             +++Walk through the reverse, and reverse it again
+++
+++++
++
+++
                    +++magni nominis umbra

+Amicus humani generis



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From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: +Thank you for your wish
Date: 1998/03/03
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People,

~~~
~~~~~

With all respect, Thank you for responding, and, Thank you for your
requests.  I feel the Queen's Weather may soon break.  Keep logging.  Time
is almost near.

                    +the writing can be read


To reiterate;

I am not Publius and I offer no enigma, nor prize.

                    "quorum pars magna fui"

If 'I need to speak with others, ' I will address them in accordance so that
you will know.

You are probably questing (sic) my motives.  I will share with all of you
when I feel you have asked the proper questions and the proper answers are
in
place.

Some of the questions and some of your of answers are in place.

-----
quotes

A new album. One that will enlighten us in the same way that others have.
No album released during Dave's reign has really spoken to us in a cohesive
form - it's all been choppy and jumbled up messages. I just want the Floyd
to make one more great album and do one more great tour - one that will
restore them to their rightful place in musical history and keep them from
being ridiculed or overlooked by the popular media.
RM
-----
I wish for music as good as what they have done before, but by no
means do I want to see them going "back to the sources".  Evolution is
necessary in music, otherwise you get the same song again and again.
Jérôme
-----
Why, the simplest of all wishes.  I wish that the band, past and present
(Syd, Roger, Dave, Rick, and Nick--all and not just some) just communicate.
Publius told us that communication is the key, but why can't Pink Floyd
communicate with the fans?  Or with each other?  I do not demand a new album
to be in my CD player tomorrow, but rather I wish that Pink Floyd would tell
us what is going on, and that they would actually remember that they do
something wonderful.  They make music, a Godly gift to manipulate and
express emotions.  What they give to the World Audience is not something
divine and they aren't better than anyone else.  What they do, however, is
touch the human soul with the collaboration of their hearts.  Its a group
effort guys, you can't do it by yourselves.  All the failed solo albums
should be a testament to that fact.  Remember this quote? "It doesn't have
to be like this.  All we need to do is make sure we keep talking." (PF, The
Division Bell, Keep Talking, words by Gilmour and Samson).
Timothy S. Gourley
-----
That, if they're not going to bother making a new album right now, they
would at least look into giving official release to those BBC tapes that we
heard
so much about back in January.
DAYKARAK
-----
What I wish from Pink Floyd is that they no longer continue down the
road of increased "commercialisation" of their music. I don't include
AMLoR in this, because it was an album created in a far from normal
situation. However, I would have hoped that TDB would have been on a
bit more of an even keel than it was. If I want to listen to
accessible four minute songs with a catchy chorus, I can go elsewhere.
This is what I *don't* want from Pink Floyd. I'd prefer greater
exploration of good, strong musical themes.

I also believe that the old BBC stuff should be made available for
those who want it. That these performances were originally intended
for TV and radio use is largely irrelevant, although it's the excuse
used by Pink Floyd for not releasing them. Many people would like to
hear this stuff, and an official release is the best way to go.

What I want most of all is a set of Wall out-takes. Rehearsals,
different takes, demos, a decent live recording. Don't wory too much
about the video - I don't like TV that much.

Also, I'd like them to play down my local pub, as I said before.
Preferably with Roger, but then he's no longer part of Pink Floyd, so I
guess that doesn't count.
Angus
-----
I wish what everyone else does, for them to put out a new album. As for what
they can do for me, perhaps besides the new album, they can convince my
friends I'm not a freak for wanting to fall asleep to Dark Side.  And maybe
pay my tuition.  And pay my best friend's tuition and go visit her and hang
out with her, because she has been a fan for as long as she can remember.I
think for her she would love that, and she would love a new album and a
concert/tour.  That's not too much is it?
Schiz
-----

                    +j'y suis, j’y reste


                    +++I leave you with this

"Without interdependence, no living group of organisms could ever survive.
And in so far as any group of organisms depart from their functioning, from
their requirement of interdependence, to that extent does it then become
malfunctional and inoperative,"  And dies.
        -Ashley Montagu


~~
~~~

Soon, soon again.

+Amicus humani generis



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From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: +The Righteous Level
Date: 1998/03/09
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People,

~~~
~~~~~

I am very pleased to have read many of your wishes.  I am sure that you have
read most of them as well from your fellow members.

One member wrote:

>I couldn't give a toss whether Amicus knows PF or not, to tell the
>truth. It would be nice, however, if he had some means of relaying a
>sample of their fans' views and wishes to them.
>Angus

                    +the writing can be read

I am not Publius and I offer no enigma, nor prize.  I am simply here to ask
you questions.  I am warmed by your responses with the fact that you are
communicating on a righteous level.

Continue!

I am concerned for all of you who have become frustrated with my validity
and identity.

As one member wrote:

>How much longer, Friend, will you try our patience?  Explain yourself!  To
speak >in tongues is not polite.  Do you not understand this?
>Kyle

As I have stated before, my posts to all of you (fans of AMPF) will begin
with "People."  Any other posts are for others to read.  It matters not who
I am, but Why I Am.  I remain Amicus, after all, I am your friend.  I will
share with all of you
when I feel the proper answers are in place.  Time will tell.  Some of your
answers are in place.  Your interest to my questions have been a turning
point in your NG, some of you have said this yourself.  I am pleased to know
this as well.

And another member wrote:

>Amicus humani generis, I have one question for you:
>What are your wishes?
>What do YOU wish for yourself?
>if it concerns you, what do you wish from and for Pink Floyd?
>please answer, I feel we have the right to know since you have asked
>us and we have answered.thank you,
>Jérôme

Fair enough.  I believe in myself and I believe in all of you.  What I wish
for Pink Floyd is that the group can continue to rely on your righteous
level of communication by continuing to respond to my questions.

I leave you for now with this:

If you take all of Pink Floyd's work from "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn"
to "The Division Bell"  MINUS "More," "Zabriskie Point," "A Collection Of
Great Dance Songs," "Works," "Delicate Sound of Thunder" and "P.U.L.S.E.,"
think about each conceptional theme using these works.

Next, combine all of the themes in their proper order and write a brief
story (six or eight sentences, one paragraph) in which each title and theme
would flow into the next so that you have a story to tell.

Let us witness what may evolve!

~~
~~~

+Amicus humani generis



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From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: Closure & Peace
Date: 1998/03/13
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People,

This is an open letter to all Pink Floyd Fans.  You may notice something
very different with this letter, opposed to the other posts I have sent.  I
have decided to fill you in on some important issues that may or may not
affect you.  Why?  Because it is you who keep the name Pink Floyd alive!

To begin, I had posted over the past few months several rather esoteric
posts to your group.  My reason was to verify something you may or may not
find pleasant.

You see people, after Publius left you hanging, someone had to keep the fire
burning with their own enigma, "Genesis."  I now know of Publius and of the
enigma.  I care not to discuss this issue any further because of respect and
confidentiality.  That is purely between Publius and you.  What Publius told
you was the truth.  There is an enigma and all I will say is that a few of
you have already mentioned (possibly through research or a hunch) what it is
about.

A few of the posts I had sent prior were actually to Publius and some were
just an experiment to verify my point.  I asked my assistant to hire an
investigator to research through past posts. He found something very
unusually with the emerges of Genesis, something I suspected long ago.
As I have mentioned before, Pink Floyd's camp nor Publius know anything
of this character.  Also, I am not here to convince you, just present some
facts.
I am not here either to entice you with long drawn out clues pertaining to
the enigma.

The enigma is still valid.  I can tell you that Publius WAS the only person
to know what questions to present to you- for it was Publius who created it.
No one else knows except for a few people and they too have remained neutral
due to respect.

The following is a sample of some interesting facts that were presented to
me. Notice a similarity in the message ID from the so-called last post of
said Publius and the first and every message ID post from Genesis!
The >>>> <<<< were added to emphasize the point.


Subject:      the void of day
From:         PUBLIUS
Date:         1997/03/07
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from all thats vail, I spoke you words to all heard.  Now see the new
mind I have let see.  >>>>Under<<<< the new breath, thats where >>>>I'll
be.<<<<
PUBLIUS
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Subject:      "CHAPTER One"
From:         "Genesis"
Date:         1997/03/21
Message-ID:   <5gu2ph$[e-mail]>
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Chapter 1.
     In the beginning, all of you were looking strong.  If I give you
a new gate, will most follow the lead? Enter not the less skeptic, but
understand the reason.  Just open your eyes see, and >>>>under I'll be.<<<<
Genesis
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The following are excerpts that may be of interest to you also. I have
placed a "*" before and after my responses.

1997/05/15
A sharP Eye has found the flags))).

1997/09/15
A sharpe eye

1997/09/30
A= sharpe<)) eye

1997/10/13
A= sharpe<)) eye

*Notice the evolution of the "sharp eye" content,  especially the addition
of
the "e" and the emphasize of these symbols <))"   Was this to excite someone
into thinking it was about them.  The "e" was added only after Genesis
thought it would feed in.  Publius and the enigma are of the most highest
regard and would not create such a secondary or corrupt puzzle within an
enigma.  All of Genesis' posts were completely off balance as to what the
true enigma is about.  I have only brought this to your attention because I
was asked to- by others and someone who wanted a bone.*
----------------------------------------------------------------
Genesis posts:

1997/05/13
Related to Publius?  I’ve never proclaimed.

*Of course not, it is only Publius who knows the answers and thus knows what
questions to ask and how to guide those clues.*
-------------------------------------------------------------
1997/10/13
Only a true fan will know. She may know more than
you think-))

*Who is she?  Publius would have NEVER included anyone else into the enigma
because it is only he and he alone who created it.  In addition, not to get
off topic, Pink Floyd does not and has NEVER sent any individual fan a
cryptic message within their music.  This people, is against the law of
ethics.*
--------------------------------------------------------------
1998/02/25
Someone may be playing games, as some of you have noticed….
Where is the Enigma now?  Where is Publius?  Who can we trust?

(where is the enigma now?)
*Only Publius knows, if Genesis was a true assistant messenger, then Genesis
would not ask this question.*

(where is publius?)
*Any close connection to the true enigma would know where he is.*

(who can we trust)
*Who is we?  If Genesis was true, then Genesis would not include him/herself
as a player. If Genesis was true, Genesis would not ask for trust as Genesis
would be in control because he/she would know how to enact the clues.*
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1998/03/11

I was right, Genesis posted today and is pissed off that someone
is misleading the fans with bs namely amicus.

*Genesis' post did not appear to be upset.  Only one who is associated with
Genesis would know he is upset, meaning the person who is playing into this
rubbish, or perhaps the person who actually wrote it and is continuing their
own enigma.*


The bottom line people, continue with your wonderful NG and your most
interesting
topics. I have found my peace with all of you, and with/for/by Pink Floyd.

I have become very busy lately.  I wish you all good health, perhaps I may
wander in
for a spell now and then in the future.

I leave you with this:

The universe inhales, a snowflake falls,
galaxies collide, a flower blooms, fades,
a bird sings, the cosmos reels,
autumn leaves turn,
death and life,
eternal duet.
After a year, a decade, a century has passed,
we look back in wonder at the beauty of times tapestry.
We live, we love, we praise god, we die,
The universe exhales.
        -Joseph R. Veneroso

I remain,

Amicus humani generis

quorum pars magna fui
magni nominis umbra



____________________________________________________________________________

[Nikko]

[NOTE - According to Amicus' post of 30 Jun 1998, the "Amicus" replying to this post by the fan Basilisk is a fraud. This is included here because the original, genuine "TIME IS NEAR" (5 Apr 1998) post cannot be found.]

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From: "Basilisk" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dr. Who and Floyd
Date: 1998/04/25
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I got a two CD set bootleg of some recent stuff which features a little
musical quote from the theme song of Dr. Who during Wish You Were Here. I
was quite surprised, and was wondering if any other references had been
found.
Thanks.
-mike

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From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: Re: Dr. Who and Floyd
Date: 1998/04/26
Message-ID: <eu9vpAXc9GA.311@upnetnews03>#1/1
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People,

Close, so close.

Review my post of 4/5/98 "TIME IS NEAR"  It is your best chance, don't lose
it.

                    quorum pars magna fui
                     magni nominis umbra

I am here.  Soon you will see the validity and moiety.

Peace to you all.

I remain,

Amicus humani generis

____________________________________________________________________________


From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: Re: Dr. Who and Floyd
Date: 1998/04/27
Message-ID: <urCRdZec9GA.227@uppubnews03>#1/1
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I have reposted this for you.  Take it!  You are very near.

-----Original Message-----
From: Amicus humani generis <tempusedaxrarum>
Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
Date: Sunday, April 05, 1998 7:47 AM
Subject: TIME IS NEAR

>People,
>
>As I had mentioned in my last post, I would drop by now and then.  I only
>have a brief moment to write to all of you-  I am still very busy.
>
>I am not Publius
>
>                    quorum pars magna fui
>                    magni nominis umbra
>                    your allegiance is important
>
>I am sure that some you have questioned my validity.  You can trust assure
>that I
>
>                    Amicus humani generis
>                    quorum pars magna fui
>
>would not deceive you.  Time will tell.
>
>However, some of you are also asking why I am here and what is my motive.
>I have my reasons- they are for you, not only to enjoy, but, to also
ponder.
>
>                    Our time has come
>
>The Publius Enigma has, and will always be valid.
>Publius you know of with validity.
>Genesis- there is no such character.
>
>Perhaps I can assist you now and then with clues.
>
>Publius is here within all of you.
>
>                    the writing can be read
>                    I am here, here I remain
>                    Publius
>
>The Publius Enigma has, and will always be valid.
>
>                    the writing can be read
>-----------------------------------------------
>I shall begin -
>
><<</>>>        Walk through the reverse, and reverse it again
>
>I will make it as easy as I can.  If we break down from the moiety, (that
>would depend on your participation), my validity will be confirmed anyway
>through news you have been waiting to hear.
>
>A Time Lord?
>
>Continue to:
>
>                    Walk through the reverse, and reverse it again
>
>Our time is short.
>Our time is near.
>I bid you peace.
>
>I remain,
>
>Amicus humani generis

____________________________________________________________________________

[Nikko]

[Note - There were a number of fraudulent posts before this next one]

From: "Amicus humani generis" <tempusedaxrarum>
Subject: The FINAL CUT ~~  ~~~
Date: 1998/06/30
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People,

Greetings again.

I have been personally reading your NG lately. My assistant has inform me
that some of you are searching for the validity of Amicus. Trust assure
People, that I have not deceived you.

For verification, I will answer your questions posted to [e-mail]
and respond here to your NG to verify my validity.

I did not send the past few messages. My last post was on 5, April, 1998,
prior to16, June, 1998.

                    I am not Publius
                    quorum pars magna fui

I am Amicus humani generis, your friend. I will assist you until your
greatest wish- the ~~ ~~~ Enigma is solved.

                    listen very closely to POLES APART
                    image yourself as the recipient
                    how do you feel?

Now listen to ~~ ~~~TIME ~~ ~~~ and remember the emotions, fears, and dreams
you felt while listening to POLES APART and blend them together with TIME.

                    Continue my friend.
                    <<</>>>

Now listen to ~~ ~~~ DOGS ~~ ~~~ and remember your emotions, fears, and
dreams you felt while listening to POLES APART, TIME , and DOGS and blend
them together.

                    sort yourself
                    do you see a pattern?
                    the pattern is close to Publius' location for the prize

~~ ~~~

I shall now offer you a long awaited clue (explanation) in which you have
been seeking- I have felt your frustration. It is time. ~~ ~~~

                    ( 1 1 )
                    what are they?
                    reoccurring artistic motifs
                    boxing gloves- artistic motifs- why reversed?
                    <<</>>> Walk through the reverse, and reverse it again

Congratulations Mr. Mair and Mr. Brown- you have unveiled a sequential
formula within the reversed pattern.

I, Amicus humani generis, shall now guide you through the ~~ ~~~ ENIGMA.
I now continue for my friend Publius.

                    ~~ ~~~
                    ++ +++
                    +the writing can be read
                    the Publius Enigma has, and will always be valid

Remember, People, I am your friend. ~~ ~~~

There is no other messenger but the one Publius has sent you.

                    Amicus humani generis
                    quorum pars magna fui
                    magni nominis umbra

I bid you peace,

++ ~~ Amicus humani generis





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From: "Anon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: I, ~~Amicus, Friend To The Human Race
Date: 2000/02/25
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>#1/1
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It did not originate from any address listed in the message.
X-Abuse-to: [e-mail]
Organization: Cotse
X-Mail-To-News-Contact: [e-mail]
X-Comments: Anonymous mail2news gate web interface - packetderm.cotse.com/anonnews.htm.
Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd

My Friends,

~~~Soon.

You are near and far~

~~Soon.

~Amicus -- 
Anon news web interface.  FAQ available for review at:
packetderm.cotse.com/cgi-bin/blockit.cgi





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From: "Amicus Humani Generis" <[e-mail]>
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+People,

It has been awhile since my last communication.



Perhaps we all have holidayed from within.

TiME~~ Perhaps now it is TiMe again to begin since you have not discovered
the prize. ++~

No anon remailers this time~~+++~
/TaLK/TiME/this will be solved soon  +~~

                    +++Here I am, I here remain

                    +++revenons a nos moutons

+intra muros
+can it be torn down now?
+hoc age
+the writing is read

             +++Walk through the reverse, and reverse it again

+++
deleted-please research this line
++
+++
                    +++magni nominis umbra

I remain

+Amicus humani generis





____________________________________________________________________________

[Note - The final message is not explicitly related to Pink Floyd, and was posted to alt.music.seal. However, it is not anonymous and originates from the same email address as the previous post]

From: "Amicus Humani Generis" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: interpretation crazy 
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This ? has been probably asked before to Seal fans.

Does anyone have a valid interpretation of the song crazy. I would like to
hear your response.

TIA





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[ayetam]

www.youtube.com/ayetam

[ayetam]

DID YOU NOT SAY YOU NEED TO SOLVE THE ENIGMA?

THREATENING ME WILL ONLY CLOSE YOUR OWN DOOR,
FOR THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY, BUT I WANT YOU TO REALIZE, BEFORE THEY WILL COME.

I ONLY WANTED TO HELP.

[ayetam]

I AM NOT PLAYING WITH YOU:

I AM YOUR TRUE FRIEND, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

I AM NOT GONNA PLAY THIS GAME, FOR THE RESOLUTION IS RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.

FOLLOW:

Do you remember the song "RETURN TO INNOCENCE"?
I just cannot remember what is THE NAME OF THE AUTHOR (can someone find it for me and post it?), but the lyrics are VERY IMPRESSIVE.

DID I NOT PROMISE THAT I WOULD RETURN?

I KEEP MY WORD, WILL YOU KEEP YOURS?

I HAVE TOLD YOU IT IS VERY SIMPLE. I NEVER CHANGE AND NEVER LEAVE YOU HUNGRY AND THIRSTY. NOW, IT IS TIME TO REJOICE AND TO RETURN. I CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR ENDURANCE. NOW, PUT YOUR NEW OLD PERSPECTIVES INTO IT AND THE WORLD WILL BE A PEACEFUL PLACE OF FREEDOM, LOVE AND JUSTICE.

[pseudonymous]

Feb 12, 2008 4:16:41 GMT ayetam said:

www.youtube.com/ayetam

I watched it. I have to say it would not even been better in 1080p. It looks like first you got crayons all over the monitor putting that together; then your cat, dog, ferret or whatever got sick on it. You owe me those wasted seconds of my life back.

pseudonymous

[awa0710]

hahaha i second that i wasted my time on that too...