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Post by xcell on Mar 21, 2006 19:36:12 GMT
Hi all....
Just found you...I listen to the Division Bell CD all the time..and for some reason I wanted to research the meaning behind the lyrics.....they are very profound.....Anyways, that lead me here...and to this "enigma" I have only had a chance to glance at all the post, and I wanted to toss something out to you all...Perhaps you have already discussed this, but has anyone toss around the idea of a religious thing going on here....and I don't mean born again Christian (not that there is anything wrong with that) but the constant battle of Good and Evil, God and the Devil and our iternal communication of right and wrong.....I am going in this direction based purely on the lyrics of the song and the original post. For starters the names of the people posting:
1.Publius was a bible figure, he was "the chief man of the island" of Malta (Acts 28:7), who courteously entertained Paul and his shipwrecked companions for three days, till they found a more permanent place of residence; for they remained on the island for three months, till the stormy season had passed. The word here rendered "chief man" (protos) is supposed by some to be properly a Maltese term, the official title of the governor.
2. Genisis: 1st chapter of the bible...the beginning
Then there is the biblical references:
"Having known you, overwhelming plans have been made to give you
significant direction once again. My absence was planned. Remember, I
said, I'll always be with you and watching you. Thoes who beleive in
the Enigma are known. Remember, time has it's place" (Tue, 19 Apr 2005)
sounds like:
"For surely I know the plans I have for you", says the Lord, "plans for your welfare and not for harm, to give you a future with hope". --Jeremiah 29:11
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"...for I will never leave you nor forsake you." Wherever you go, whatever you do, He is there for you, watching over you, protecting you and loving you." --Hebrews 13:5
"Leading the blind while I stared out the steel in your eyes"(25 Jul 1994)
reminds me of....
Mark 10:46-52...
Then they came to Jericho. As Jesus and his disciples, together with a large crowd, were leaving the city, a blind man, Bartimaeus (that is, the Son of Timaeus), was sitting by the roadside begging. When he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to shout, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!"
Many rebuked him and told him to be quiet, but he shouted all the more, "Son of David, have mercy on me!"
Jesus stopped and said, "Call him." So they called to the blind man, "Cheer up! On your feet! He's calling you." Throwing his cloak aside, he jumped to his feet and came to Jesus."What do you want me to do for you?" Jesus asked him. The blind man said, "Rabbi, I want to see.""Go," said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road.
And "quoted" text like....
"My Leap of Faith"
and then there is....
"a_rod_777" what ever that means...but then I found this..look at #2
p.777 LDS Bible Dictionary*:
(1) Athe Father and the Son each are personages of spirit tabernacled with a tangible body of flesh and bones;@ see Holy Ghost;
(2) staff /rod;
(3) Stephen Aa man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit;@
(4) stick of Ephraim;
(5) stranger;
(6) suffer[ing servant];
(7) symbolism.
There are several more things....and I will post them later!
Don't know what (if anything) all this means...but it is kinda weird...right?
what are your thoughts?
Xcell
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Post by Nikko on Mar 22, 2006 8:08:32 GMT
I think you're right that the meaning behind the lyrics is important.
Any particular reason you chose christianity alone to look at? To the best of my knowledge, PF aren't christians. There are definitely themes running through all of PF's albums that parallel mythological ideas, but don't seem to be tied to just one system. To be honest, I can't really see it in Division Bell, but some links seem clear to me between DSotM, The Wall, On An Island and the Gospel of Thomas, for example. But the links are also there to the stories of Buddha, Mohammed, Greek tales, Egyptian tales, etc, etc - not specific to just one culture.
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Post by xcell on Mar 22, 2006 14:41:28 GMT
Hey-
I totally agree about it not being tied to just one system...I am not buying one theory alone...I researched christianity because of the most obvious clues pointed that way (for me)...I just thought it was note worthy.
I do believe however, that the Division Bell screams a christian theme...for example.."What do you want from me"....
You can have anything you want
You can drift, you can dream, even walk on water
Anything you want (Jesus walked on water)
You can own everything you see
Sell your soul for complete control
Is that really what you need (sounds like the devil)
You can lose yourself this night
See inside there is nothing to hide
Turn and face the light(God)
and......"High Hope" from beginning to end.... among others
As far as PF being christians, I would guess they're not..but I am not sure it matters...I don't think PF went off and made a christian rock album....I don't think it was the intention to have any kind of "christian theme"..I kinda just think that it just "is" and maybe this direction( as far as the enigma goes) was an afterthought that could led us somewhere else.
I also don't dismiss for a second any other religion or culture and their significance or influence....I just don't know that much about them to speculate.
Please understand...I suck at puzzles or riddles....but I am very good at thinking outside the box..... I truly believe it's a "branch" worth exploring....not the whole tree.
Xcell ;D
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Post by Nikko on Mar 24, 2006 9:30:44 GMT
Great points, Xcell! You can have anything you want You can drift, you can dream, even walk on water Anything you want (Jesus walked on water) Since they are saying " You can walk on water," that seems to imply that you (that is, all of us) can actually be a Christ, not merely follow one. That meshes perfectly with some early christian philosophies, but not modern protestantism or catholicism. You can own everything you see Sell your soul for complete control Is that really what you need (sounds like the devil) I'm not basing this on any mythological texts, but that lyric always struck me as refering to inner demons, the negative side of the mind that close a person off from others. You can lose yourself this night See inside there is nothing to hide Turn and face the light(God) Maybe losing yourself is losing that negative controling impulse (the materialist ego), and facing the light is not bowing to an external god but actually becoming an enlightened being yourself. That's just my take on it. One of the great things about the Floyd's music is that it's as relevant to atheists as it is to believers! Keep thinking outside the box - nobody has yet been able to say what the Enigma is all about or how to even begin to solve it. I don't really see what you mean about High Hopes. Can you tell me more? |
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Post by xcell on Mar 24, 2006 18:10:37 GMT
When you said....
"One of the great things about the Floyd's music is that it's as relevant to atheists as it is to believers!"
You couldn't be more right!!!! I read somewhere today how PF's album was the longest on the charts ever...or something like that...and it was questioned ...why that was! I think what you said it why....it's weird......and also...for me the meaning and relevance have changed over the years......depending on where I am at in my head.....it's timeless and brilliant.
Anyways.....as far as "High Hopes"...it's gonna be the same situation in regards to it's relevance. But the best way to explain it is.....The Book of Revelations.....it's the last book in the bible......If you have not read it, it's about the end of the world.......there have been some movies on it....Stephen King did one with a modern take called......."The Stand" is about 8 hrs long......but it's awsome.....Actully...now that I think about it...."The Stand" theory is exactly what I think the theory is of the Division Bell...it's about a man that escapes from a biological weapon facility after an accident, carrying with him the deadly virus known as Captain Tripps, a rapidly mutating flu that - in the ensuing weeks - wipes out most of the world's population. In the aftermath, survivors choose between following an elderly black woman to Boulder or the dark man, Randall Flagg, who has set up his command post in Las Vegas. The two factions prepare for a confrontation between the forces of good and evil.
This is the way the world ends: with a nanosecond of computer error in a Defense Department laboratory and a million casual contacts that form the links in a chain letter of death. And here is the bleak new world of the day after: a world stripped of its institutions and emptied of 99 percent of its people. A world in which a handful of panicky survivors choose sides-or are chosen. A world in which good rides on the frail shoulders of the 108-year-old Mother Abagail-and the worst nightmares of evil are embodied in a man with a lethal smile and unspeakable powers: Randall Flagg, the dark man.
Sounds cool right???!!!!!!
I also agree...we are not talking about modern protestantism or catholicism. I think whatever it is it back to the basics.....BUT.....the names ......Publius and Genisis were chosen for a reason...I really believe that.......
Also.....I noticed in Genisis' post that he had caps in seemingly random spots..do you know if anyone has made note of those caps to see if they spelled out anything?
xcell
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Post by philtherodent on Mar 24, 2006 21:51:54 GMT
The letters and code have all been looked at, and some of them have been solved (like the ~) but largely they go unknown. Most believe they form anagrams, but I personally sway towards the idea of them being cyphers. Anagrams don't make good puzzles. And, to be honest, I think a different approach might be in order as for 11 years the anagrammers have made no real progress.
Keep on the Stand/Revelations theory though. They are definitely ringing the same as that NASA story I was reading which I haven't puzzled through yet.
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Post by xcell on Mar 26, 2006 1:54:05 GMT
Phil....
Where can I find the NASA story.....Also...where can I get info on the solution of the tilde(~)....it's one of the 5 logical operators and is used to translate "not or it is not the case" The symbols are used to make determining validity a matter of mere visual inspection. So I would love to know what came before or after the tilde....
lemme know
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Post by philtherodent on Mar 26, 2006 15:47:16 GMT
Unfortunately, our main forum keeps getting knocked out of operation, and trusting old me I figure things will be back up in no time. For the time being, thus, I don't have the story. I don't have a link to the story either. What I CAN say is that it is archived in a NASA sight (I believe the IMAGE program), and it was written by the owner of the Astronomy Cafe, Dr. Sten Odenwald. The NASA Image Logo, incentally, is MONSTER close to one of the DB logos.
In the tilde post, consider all the ~s as the backspace character. Unfortunately, this information doesn't seem to help as Publius didn't reuse this.
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Post by philtherodent on Mar 26, 2006 15:58:31 GMT
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Post by arod777 on Jun 5, 2006 21:32:11 GMT
Hi all.... Just found you...I listen to the Division Bell CD all the time..and for some reason I wanted to research the meaning behind the lyrics.....they are very profound.....Anyways, that lead me here...and to this "enigma" I have only had a chance to glance at all the post, and I wanted to toss something out to you all...Perhaps you have already discussed this, but has anyone toss around the idea of a religious thing going on here....and I don't mean born again Christian (not that there is anything wrong with that) but the constant battle of Good and Evil, God and the Devil and our iternal communication of right and wrong.....I am going in this direction based purely on the lyrics of the song and the original post. For starters the names of the people posting: 1.Publius was a bible figure, he was "the chief man of the island" of Malta (Acts 28:7), who courteously entertained Paul and his shipwrecked companions for three days, till they found a more permanent place of residence; for they remained on the island for three months, till the stormy season had passed. The word here rendered "chief man" (protos) is supposed by some to be properly a Maltese term, the official title of the governor. 2. Genisis: 1st chapter of the bible...the beginning Then there is the biblical references: "Having known you, overwhelming plans have been made to give you significant direction once again. My absence was planned. Remember, I said, I'll always be with you and watching you. Thoes who beleive in the Enigma are known. Remember, time has it's place" (Tue, 19 Apr 2005) sounds like: "For surely I know the plans I have for you", says the Lord, "plans for your welfare and not for harm, to give you a future with hope". --Jeremiah 29:11 and "...for I will never leave you nor forsake you." Wherever you go, whatever you do, He is there for you, watching over you, protecting you and loving you." --Hebrews 13:5 "Leading the blind while I stared out the steel in your eyes"(25 Jul 1994) reminds me of.... Mark 10:46-52... Then they came to Jericho. As Jesus and his disciples, together with a large crowd, were leaving the city, a blind man, Bartimaeus (that is, the Son of Timaeus), was sitting by the roadside begging. When he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to shout, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!" Many rebuked him and told him to be quiet, but he shouted all the more, "Son of David, have mercy on me!" Jesus stopped and said, "Call him." So they called to the blind man, "Cheer up! On your feet! He's calling you." Throwing his cloak aside, he jumped to his feet and came to Jesus."What do you want me to do for you?" Jesus asked him. The blind man said, "Rabbi, I want to see.""Go," said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road. And "quoted" text like.... "My Leap of Faith" and then there is.... "a_rod_777" what ever that means...but then I found this..look at #2 p.777 LDS Bible Dictionary*: (1) Athe Father and the Son each are personages of spirit tabernacled with a tangible body of flesh and bones;@ see Holy Ghost; (2) staff /rod; (3) Stephen Aa man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit;@ (4) stick of Ephraim; (5) stranger; (6) suffer[ing servant]; (7) symbolism. There are several more things....and I will post them later! Don't know what (if anything) all this means...but it is kinda weird...right? what are your thoughts? Xcell Hi Xcell, Sorry for this late reply but I just saw your post. My moniker on PubliusEnigma.com was actually a_rod_777 before me and a few other people were banned by the Administrator's for talking shit to them. I was kinda stickin up for a Christian buddy of mine named Malcom... used to go by the name "MMLLDD" he had alot of interesting things to say that went right along with your thoughts. You'de like his posts. Many of us have worked on the enigma for over 10 years, and personally I beleive you hit the nail on the head with some of your remarks. My personal finds in the last 13 years (yes I knew of an enigma before it was announced) have led me everywhere from the Manson Murder's, to the Knights Templars and Freemason's, right back to the dawn of civilization when mankind was visited by an advanced race of beings who imparted sacred knowledge to the rulers of this planet. The same rulers of the world today are genetically related to the long line of rulers that spans thousands of generations back to the "Genesis" of humanity. I would love to fill you in on some of the things Ive found. -anthony |
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Post by clusterone on Jun 13, 2006 16:50:49 GMT
Whats up everyone, Big here.
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Post by pi on Jun 13, 2006 23:44:25 GMT
Hi all.... Just found you...I listen to the Division Bell CD all the time..and for some reason I wanted to research the meaning behind the lyrics.....they are very profound.....Anyways, that lead me here...and to this "enigma" I have only had a chance to glance at all the post, and I wanted to toss something out to you all...Perhaps you have already discussed this, but has anyone toss around the idea of a religious thing going on here....and I don't mean born again Christian (not that there is anything wrong with that) but the constant battle of Good and Evil, God and the Devil and our iternal communication of right and wrong.....I am going in this direction based purely on the lyrics of the song and the original post. For starters the names of the people posting: 1.Publius was a bible figure, he was "the chief man of the island" of Malta (Acts 28:7), who courteously entertained Paul and his shipwrecked companions for three days, till they found a more permanent place of residence; for they remained on the island for three months, till the stormy season had passed. The word here rendered "chief man" (protos) is supposed by some to be properly a Maltese term, the official title of the governor. 2. Genisis: 1st chapter of the bible...the beginning Then there is the biblical references: "Having known you, overwhelming plans have been made to give you significant direction once again. My absence was planned. Remember, I said, I'll always be with you and watching you. Thoes who beleive in the Enigma are known. Remember, time has it's place" (Tue, 19 Apr 2005) sounds like: "For surely I know the plans I have for you", says the Lord, "plans for your welfare and not for harm, to give you a future with hope". --Jeremiah 29:11 and "...for I will never leave you nor forsake you." Wherever you go, whatever you do, He is there for you, watching over you, protecting you and loving you." --Hebrews 13:5 "Leading the blind while I stared out the steel in your eyes"(25 Jul 1994) reminds me of.... Mark 10:46-52... Then they came to Jericho. As Jesus and his disciples, together with a large crowd, were leaving the city, a blind man, Bartimaeus (that is, the Son of Timaeus), was sitting by the roadside begging. When he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to shout, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!" Many rebuked him and told him to be quiet, but he shouted all the more, "Son of David, have mercy on me!" Jesus stopped and said, "Call him." So they called to the blind man, "Cheer up! On your feet! He's calling you." Throwing his cloak aside, he jumped to his feet and came to Jesus."What do you want me to do for you?" Jesus asked him. The blind man said, "Rabbi, I want to see.""Go," said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road. And "quoted" text like.... "My Leap of Faith" and then there is.... "a_rod_777" what ever that means...but then I found this..look at #2 p.777 LDS Bible Dictionary*: (1) Athe Father and the Son each are personages of spirit tabernacled with a tangible body of flesh and bones;@ see Holy Ghost; (2) staff /rod; (3) Stephen Aa man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit;@ (4) stick of Ephraim; (5) stranger; (6) suffer[ing servant]; (7) symbolism. There are several more things....and I will post them later! Don't know what (if anything) all this means...but it is kinda weird...right? what are your thoughts? Xcell Hi Xcell, Sorry for this late reply but I just saw your post. My moniker on PubliusEnigma.com was actually a_rod_777 before me and a few other people were banned by the Administrator's for talking shit to them. I was kinda stickin up for a Christian buddy of mine named Malcom... used to go by the name "MMLLDD" he had alot of interesting things to say that went right along with your thoughts. You'de like his posts. Many of us have worked on the enigma for over 10 years, and personally I beleive you hit the nail on the head with some of your remarks. My personal finds in the last 13 years (yes I knew of an enigma before it was announced) have led me everywhere from the Manson Murder's, to the Knights Templars and Freemason's, right back to the dawn of civilization when mankind was visited by an advanced race of beings who imparted sacred knowledge to the rulers of this planet. The same rulers of the world today are genetically related to the long line of rulers that spans thousands of generations back to the "Genesis" of humanity. I would love to fill you in on some of the things Ive found. -anthony Anthony! At last, one known member from publiusenigma.com I'm pi from the above forum. I do not know if you remember me. I had posted only a few messages. Can you explain me what exactly has happened to that forum? I made a login one day (around Febrouary, I do not remember exactly) and I saw the forum hacked! It was for 2 days and in those 2 days, I did not think of saving some important posts... After two days, I could not log in. I recieved an e-mail from Rene saying that my account was deleted. After one month, when the site was up again (Version 8.0 this time), I tried to register again, but I recieved once more an identical e-mail saying that my password has been deleted. Last time I tried after Easter trying from another computer with another nickname, but this time I have not recieved any replies from the administrator yet. I was searching the other forums for known members and it seems I have found some of them here. So... what the shit have happened to publiusenigma forum?? And.., do we have some news about the whole thing? I only noticed a new message by Genesis. |
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Post by arod777 on Jun 16, 2006 23:13:01 GMT
Whats up Pi?  good to see you here.... and you too Big! basically something really weird is going on with that site. Supposedly it was hacked and we lost about two years worth of valuable data... including the proof that Big and PubliusEnigma had successfully predicted the reunion on June 11th and certain signals that occured at Live8 on July 2nd last year. Rene (the administrator) started banning people left and right. he banned Malcom for posting Christian verses from the bible. When I confronted him about it I was also banned. Scientologists have been screwing with the enigmatists for years behind the scenes. I personally beleive they were the ones behind 80% of the flames and rude remarks on ampf. because they didn't want the enigma solved so they did what the Illuminati have done for years (scientology is a direct offshoot of the illuminati, hence the extreme similarities to the teachings of Aleister Crowley. L. Ron Hubbard has even admitted that he thought he was the successor to Crowley.) They discredited and made anyone who was an enigmatist look like a lunatic by posting on ampf under the guise of normal PF fans. When the real PF fans saw all these fake scientologist fans flaming the enigmatists they began flaming the enigmatists too... becasue people are sheep, they go along with the general consensus. Same concept can be applied to people who have seen UFO's. Those who know they are real and wish to keep it a secret put out disinformation into the media and then they publically humiliate those who do come forward by calling them crazy. The American public see this in the media and then they follow suit, becasue they tyhink thats what everybody who is "normal" thinks.... get my point? It is a fact that Scientologists were responsible for shutting down the anonymous server Publius 94' used to post from. Now this is gonna sound really crazy to you but I swear once you have done the research it becomes alot more fathomable. If you want I can begin to show you places to look to prove that what Iam about to tell you is real. Our civilization was founded by an advanced race of beings who are vampiric in nature, meaning they feed on human flesh and on human emotion. These are the true illuminati represented by the All Seeing Eye. The evidence is in the hystory, symbology and mythology of every major culture around the world. I have come to beleive that the enigma is directly related to these beings who are somehow functioning behind the scenes and using mankind as slaves to acheive whatever agenda it is they have..... possibly somthing to do with Gold. I had a preminition that the people running Publiusenigma.com were Scientologists or were being directed by Scientologists so I outright called them Vampires and I told them that they should fear the cross. 5 minutes later I was banned, the forum was locked for a few hours and then Rene completely erased our conversation. Iam still talking to people from that site and none of them have any clue I was banned... they simply thought I left on my own free will. I think that whoever is running that site... and it probably goes higher than Rene, is working against the enigma. Just as we were getting close to an answer and the reunion took place as a sign we were on the right track is when the hack happened and we lost all that valuable information. The fact is that PubliusEnigma claimed their was a sign left near cambridge on June 11th 2004. Nobody (to my knowledge, if you can dispute it I would be very interested) has ever brought up the date of the first Publius post as having any type of significance until this happened. Then RacEcaR, who claimed he was Nick Mason, claimed to find a flag with a design. Next we discovered a crop circle with a design very similar but not exact, but far too similar to be a coincedence. Many were skeptical and rightly so since the flag wasnt displayed until after the crop circle appeared on the net. So it was entirely possible to hoax this, but then.... One year later Publius told many of us something was going to happen on June 11th again. Previous to this we had been getting alot of clues refering to 11:11. Pryor to this the only clue involving 11:11 to ever surface was the page "elfelf" in TDB booklet. But in the last few years clues like Charles Mansons birthday (November 11th...11:11) and the helter skelter slide in the SOYCD video were brought to our attention. And the signifance of 11:11 representing a doorway betweeen the spiritual and the physical, or of it being a wake up call programed into our minds so that when we see it, it is like an alram clock. Or the concept that kids make wishes at 11:11... anyways all these clues surfaced in a short period of time then suddenly Publius claims something big is going to happen on June 11th, the 11th anniversary of Publius94's first post... 11:11 PF announced they would reunite. Next Big got a message to deliver to us about signs to look for at Live8. Went something like this. Hyde Park London approximately 11:11pm think outside the wall flashing white lights. Now PF was scheduled to play between 9-10pm and the concert was to be over before 11pm. But for some reason it went longer and PF took the stage shortly after 11pm. Then approximately 11:11 the wall shopwed up on the background screen (think outside the wall) and all the light around it shined so brightly they actually blinded the camera for a moment creating a total and complete white our for about 2-3 seconds. And despite all this evidence, there were certain individuals on PubliusEnigma.com who refused to even acknowledge that these predictions were authentic.... they wouldnt even investigate it.... it was almost as if they were trying to hide it...... only a few months later the hack came and we lost all of the information. Something isnt right there, and I wonder if I stumbled to close to the truth when I called Rene and Craig vampires. They have underneath their Moniker names the phrase "a necessary evil" fuck that place, their are good people their but their is also bad bad elements hanging around whos only purpose is to impede our progress. Im gonna start posting to here and ampf when I get more time. I will gladley share any and all info I have and have uncovered with you if you would like to join our small team of investigators. let me know a_rod_777@yahoo.com I will still be postng most of my finds here if you are only interested in discussing this on the forum, however there are a few details that I am currently keeping between me and my team mates for now becasue Iam not quite sure who to trust anymore. row row row your boat genbtly down a stream, merrily merilly merrily merrily, life is but a dream... -ant |
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Post by pi on Jun 19, 2006 10:33:58 GMT
I have come to beleive that the enigma is directly related to these beings who are somehow functioning behind the scenes and using mankind as slaves to acheive whatever agenda it is they have..... possibly somthing to do with Gold. I had a preminition that the people running Publiusenigma.com were Scientologists or were being directed by Scientologists so I outright called them Vampires and I told them that they should fear the cross. ....5 minutes later I was banned, the forum was locked for a few hours and then Rene completely erased our conversation. Iam still talking to people from that site and none of them have any clue I was banned... they simply thought I left on my own free will. ...Something isnt right there, and I wonder if I stumbled to close to the truth when I called Rene and Craig vampires. They have underneath their Moniker names the phrase "a necessary evil" m gonna start posting to here and ampf when I get more time. I will gladley share any and all info I have and have uncovered with you if you would like to join our small team of investigators. let me know a_rod_777@yahoo.com I will still be postng most of my finds here if you are only interested in discussing this on the forum, however there are a few details that I am currently keeping between me and my team mates for now becasue Iam not quite sure who to trust anymore. row row row your boat genbtly down a stream, merrily merilly merrily merrily, life is but a dream... -ant Thx for replying to my post. When did this take place? I mean which month? The weird think is that I do not know WHY I am (?) banned... I have only posted to publiusenigma like 10 times. And I was not being controversial or offensive, I only posted when I wanted to express my opinion or to make an inquiry. From what you are saying, you suggest Craig Mc Gee is also involved, but if that happened, does this guy try to discredit the enigma for ten years? Also, if it is true that the site is running under the ombrella of some evil organization, why PubliusEnigma (or the guy supposed to be the original publius) was posting on this site and not on ampf as Genesis (also subject to be fake..) on ampf. At least, I think ampf is a more accessible place for all kinds of people. I'm aware about the message on 06/11/05. I also remember that Big had edited his post 2 or 3 times changing the time. I've also noticed the flashing white lights you are talking about, I clearly remember it, an instant turn of the camera on the right and above the main stage. Do you know if I can see some video of the live8 event again to see again the lights...? Keep talking... I will post here and I will e-mail you in the next days for briefer conversation. I |
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