As Above , So Below !

[laughingfreeman]

anybody heard from

myriad
china green elves
axel 777

or any of the other publius enigma hunters recently ?

I am curious what they think of the SITE MONIKER , USERNAME , PASSWORD theory .

many of us have moved on to study and encourage the evolution of social enlightenment , I wonder if that was not the real gift intended ? I believe that most people involved learned a great deal about the history of mankind while searching for clues and many personal breakthroughs where made.Some of the people deeply involved with Publius Enigma will surely go on to be the leaders that are needed to awaken humanity and usher in the next stage of perception. We Listened , We Read, We Thought and we Communicated, more now then we ever had prior to 1995. Awareness is never complete we will always be searching for more answers and that in itself is the PUBLIUS ENIGMA ; the question that we all seek that can never be answered. KEEP TALKING !!!!!

[philtherodent]

Myriad and CGE still appear quite active on alt.music.pink-floyd. CGE had a forum set up on enigmapublius.org but it appears it has not been renewed. He also did quite a bit of work on the wikipedia article.

I'm afraid Axel 777 doesn't ring a bell, though I only got involved around 2004-2005, before we lost the publiusenigma.com forum (a few months prior to when Shemp set this forum up).

[myriadsmallcreatur]

May 17, 2011 20:56:56 GMT laughingfreeman said:

anybody heard from

myriadsmallcreature
chinagreenelvis
arod_777

many of us have moved on to study and encourage the evolution of social enlightenment

laughing freeman,

We languish at...

groups.google.com/group/alt.music.pink-floyd


Many of whom? Individually or collectively?

Feel free to email me at [e-mail].

Hope you are well.

[myriadsmallcreatur]

May 30, 2011 14:53:52 GMT philtherodent said:

Myriad and CGE still appear quite active on alt.music.pink-floyd. CGE had a forum set up on enigmapublius.org but it appears it has not been renewed. He also did quite a bit of work on the wikipedia article.

I'm afraid Axel 777 doesn't ring a bell, though I only got involved around 2004-2005, before we lost the publiusenigma.com forum (a few months prior to when Shemp set this forum up).

rodent phil,

17 years have got behind you. Heard from solar~max?

[philtherodent]

Haven't heard from anybody, and, largely not spending any more time at it. I've been working on some other puzzles where the ciphers are mostly in plain sight... I might get back to some light P.E. review later in the summer, but, I'm not overly concerned about it at this point.

[myriadsmallcreatur]

As you are so adept at ciphers, I wonder if you have taken a look at the scrambled posts of Aug 94, which, when assembled, resemble a key.

I consider that compilation mostly in plain sight.

Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
From: [e-mail]
X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 06:47:51 UTC
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Yes, I've been watching your progress and
am duly impressed with the recent discourse.
Many of you have taken my words to heart and
identified significant associations between
the clues. Organized communication is the key.
Your persistence and thoughtful analysis is
leading you down the road to a solution. Do
not be discouraged; you are on your way!

Special cheers to 'The Publius Concern'-I'm
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Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
From: [e-mail]
X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 06:48:33 UTC
Subject:>>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E (REPOST)<<<<<<<<<
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Yes, I've been watching your progress and
am duly impressed with the recent discourse.
Many of you have taken my words to heart and
identified significant associations between
the clues. Organized communication is the key.
Your persistence and thoughtful analysis is
leading you down the road to a solution. Do
not be discouraged; you are on your way!

Special cheers to 'The Publius Concern'-I'm
flattered - and
other fo9mal comm4:tees wh7
have fo962d to i7;29tigat2
:4e eni360

No;

62t me
46809t a
;792
7f 02;412
w4462
201h
"!
1768o727:
928:4929
4:9
[;7
4724;

Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
From: [e-mail]
X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 06:48:48 UTC
Subject: >>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E (REPOST)<<<<<<<<<
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Yes, I've been watching your progress and
am duly impressed with the recent discourse.
Many of you have taken my words to heart and
identified significant associations between
the clues. Organized communication is the key.
Your persistence and thoughtful analysis is
leading you down the road to a solution. Do
not be discouraged; you are on your way!

Special
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[philtherodent]

The lookup table would be constructed something like this:
a bc de fg hi jk lm no pq rs tu vw xy z
0 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 -: -; -< =

Should be enough to predict the underlaying message...

I would guess that the rest of the table could be constructed for capitals as follows:
A [space]
BC !
DE "
FG #
HI $
JK %
LM '
NO (
PQ )
RS *
TU +
VW ,
XY -
Z  .

No;	Now
62t me	let me
46809t a	impart a
;792	word
7f 02;412	of advice
w4462	while
201h	each
"!	DB
1768o727:	component
928:4929	requires
4:9	its
[;7	own
4724;	indiv

[myriadsmallcreatur]

Thanks, Phil.

We've been through all that.

The question is why those letters, why those numbers, and why the shape.

It must have underwhelmed the Publii to realize that no one (at ampf anyway) at the time would ever realize that the messages could not have been merely mistransmissions, and for a lot of reasons.

There could be, and there IS, I suggest, a message hidden in not one of the posts, but in all three of them put together. Much like the movie 'The Ninth Gate'. Much like 'Dictionary of the Khazars'.

Could be simple binary. Maybe not.

[philtherodent]

Like this?

otherfo9
malcomm4
:teeswh7
havefo06
2dtoi7;2
9tigat2:
4eeni360


There appears to be some strong congruity around the number 8 in the gradual obfuscation of that part of the message. That could certainly hint towards the binary ascii table -- and that would agree with the look-up table I posted: the order I found agreed with the order found in ascii, which is why I surmised what the capitals would be while only having two in the crypt.

Next part is 66 characters, so that might hint towards a grouping of 11 (or 6, perhaps) but I don't see anything very interesting in there at first go. I do note that of the 66 characters, 11 have not been transposed, so that leaves 55.

[myriadsmallcreatur]

It's been a long time.

One possibility, one I dismissed after repeated failure (and I am no cryptographer), was choosing one letter or another of the possible two for each number. Just culling them and working with them.

I thought I counted 64. At least 64 makes a good table, and it's 8 squared!

So the 6 in 62t might be an 'l' or an 'm', and so on.

In my opinion the clues to the decryption involve the scrambled words themselves...

Let me impart a word of advice, etc...

and in the construction of the 'key'.

At first it is all words, and then just a few letters, and a transition to all letters, so that the transition itself could be the message or the key to the solution.

I believe that the transition from alpha to numeric represents the movement of information in the brain from the left side to the right side, as this is something like the way the brain operates. In this case, the place in the code at which the percentage of alphanumeric is 50-50 is the location of the corpus callosum.

[philtherodent]

Or, perhaps "signal to noise". Or, that type of idea... to me, that would reference Cluster One, where it is "noise to signal".

Corpus Callosum is another thought, but then, the "left" side isn't thinking very cleanly. If it were to merge cleanly into very formally organized ciphertext, it would be easier to make that leap. But, it's mangled. So... if it does represent the two hemisphere's coming together, why would you think the left side is so obviously inferior to the right?

To be honest, in all my time working on the P.E., I never spent a whole lot of time on the posts. I figured that the "bulk" of the puzzle would be present in the album contents (and there IS stuff in there that I can't fish out). No matter, I think the whole thing is malformed and it's probably a pretty easy solve, just put together horribly.

[myriadsmallcreatur]

There are no pure tones. All is signal derived from noise.

Jul 28, 2011 13:49:56 GMT philtherodent said:

Or, perhaps "signal to noise". Or, that type of idea... to me, that would reference Cluster One, where it is "noise to signal".

Corpus Callosum is another thought, but then, the "left" side isn't thinking very cleanly. If it were to merge cleanly into very formally organized ciphertext, it would be easier to make that leap. But, it's mangled. So... if it does represent the two hemisphere's coming together, why would you think the left side is so obviously inferior to the right?

To be honest, in all my time working on the P.E., I never spent a whole lot of time on the posts. I figured that the "bulk" of the puzzle would be present in the album contents (and there IS stuff in there that I can't fish out). No matter, I think the whole thing is malformed and it's probably a pretty easy solve, just put together horribly.

The 'solve' is also an intellectual exercise imo, but much more a perceptual one.

The left side is not inferior, but has a different function, more or less.

"It takes two to know."

[philtherodent]

If you take white noise, and then give it a resonant peak with a bit of ring and then completely spike up the Q and track it to the keyboard, you can get a pretty close approximation of the "X-Files" theme song whistle sound.

[myriadsmallcreatur]

Jul 28, 2011 14:12:39 GMT philtherodent said:

If you take white noise, and then give it a resonant peak with a bit of ring and then completely spike up the Q and track it to the keyboard, you can get a pretty close approximation of the "X-Files" theme song whistle sound.

Cool. I feel the presence of Eno nearby.

Modified my post above.

[philtherodent]

Perhaps the left side has an X on it.